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Saturday, September 3, 2016

Donald Trump's visit to Mexico? Not so well

From CNN

Donald Trump flew into a nation he has constantly berated during his campaign to meet President Enrique Peña Nieto and said they discussed a wall Trump has vowed to build on the US southern border, but not his demand that Mexico pay for it -- an assertion the Mexican president later disputed.

"Who pays for the wall? We didn't discuss," Trump had said when asked by a reporter during a news conference following their meeting in Mexico City. "We did discuss the wall. We didn't discuss payment of the wall. That'll be for a later date."

But Peña Nieto later claimed the two had discussed the wall and who would pay for it -- and he had "made it clear" to Trump it wouldn't be Mexico.

"At the start of the conversation with Donald Trump, I made it clear that Mexico will not pay for the wall," Peña Nieto tweeted, after their meeting Wednesday.

He added that his conversation with the Republican nominee then moved on to other topics in a respectful fashion.

Jason Miller, Trump's senior communications adviser, called the meeting "the first part of the discussion and a relationship builder" between the two men, after Peña Nieto tweeted.

"It was not a negotiation, and that would have been inappropriate. It is unsurprising that they hold two different views on this issue, and we look forward to continuing the conversation," he said in a statement.
In subsequent interviews in Mexico, Peña Nieto reiterated his version of events. He told CNN affiliate 
Televisa in an interview late Wednesday some of the positions Trump has taken "are a threat to Mexico."


He also told the outlet he was very clear with Trump about the subject of a wall at the border and insisted Mexico would not pay for it and he made Trump aware that the people of Mexico had been "very insulted."

And after he left Mexico he went to Arizona and went apeshit:



Afterwards NBCNews did some fact checking on his speech:

WHAT TRUMP SAID: "Countless innocent American lives have been stolen because our politicians have failed in their duty to secure our borders and enforce our laws."

THE FACTS: The vast majority of undocumented immigrants do not meet Trump's various demonizing descriptions, but the implication here is that undocumented immigrants are more criminal and threaten American lives routinely. However, two studies found that despite high poverty rates — which typically coincides with high crime rates — Latino immigrants in border towns and New York City respectively were more law abiding, with lower crime rates, than non-Latino white and black Americans.

What's more, illegal immigration is at its lowest point since 1972. The only real rise? The flow of unaccompanied young children fleeing gang violence and poverty in Central America.

WHAT TRUMP SAID: "On top of that, illegal immigration costs our country more than $113 billion dollars a year. For the money we are going to spend on illegal immigration over the next ten years, we could provide one million at-risk students with a school voucher."


THE FACTS: As the Washington Post notes in their lengthy fact-check, this large number comes from FAIR and includes estimates how much it costs to educate and provide medical care for the children of undocumented immigrants born here — in other words, legal citizens.

WHAT TRUMP SAID: "The truth is, the central issue is not the needs of the 11 million illegal immigrants or however many there may be — and honestly we've been hearing that number for years. It's always 11 million. Our government has no idea. It could be 3 million. It could be 30 million. They have no idea what the number is."

THE FACTS: The government has a pretty good idea of what that number is, and there's no evidence it is anywhere near 30 million. PolitiFact has ranked that claim Pants on Fire.

WHAT TRUMP SAID: "Most illegal immigrants are lower-skilled workers with less education who compete directly against vulnerable American workers."


THE FACTS: Economists — at least the ones who aren't working for anti-immigration research groups — have struggled to find a correlation between native unemployment and immigration.

Trump made such an ass of himself that his Hispanic allies are jumping ship:

Several major Latino surrogates for Donald Trump are reconsidering their support for him following the Republican nominee’s hardline speech on immigration Wednesday night.

Jacob Monty, a member of Trump’s National Hispanic Advisory Council, quickly resigned after the speech. Another member, Ramiro Pena, a Texas pastor, said Trump's speech likely cost him the election and said he'd have to reconsider being part of a "scam." And Alfonso Aguilar, the president of the Latino Partnership for Conservative Principles, said in an interview that he is “inclined” to pull his support.

“I was a strong supporter of Donald Trump when I believed he was going to address the immigration problem realistically and compassionately,” said Monty, a Houston attorney who has aggressively made the Latino case for Trump. “What I heard today was not realistic and not compassionate.”

And of course Stupid Palin had to post this:







I see Trump's poll numbers dropping even though he got a little bump this week.

1 comment:

  1. "Trump dio un paso en la mierda de caballo."
    Tambien.

    (Trumped stepped in horse shit.)
    Also.

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